{"id":9000567,"date":"2026-10-14T23:26:23","date_gmt":"2026-10-14T23:26:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/va\/?post_type=app_event&#038;p=9000567"},"modified":"2026-10-14T23:26:24","modified_gmt":"2026-10-14T23:26:24","slug":"vasf-conversation-with-hansulrichobrist","status":"publish","type":"app_event","link":"https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/va\/events\/vasf-conversation-with-hansulrichobrist\/","title":{"rendered":"Art in the Age of AI: A Conversation between residents Holly Herndon &amp; Mat Dryhurst, and Hans Ulrich Obrist\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Co-Presented with SFMOMA\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Listen in as three longtime colleagues, collaborators, and friends continue an ongoing conversation, probing the big ideas on their minds as artists and curators reshape their field in dialogue with technology.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Earlier this year, Villa Albertine San Francisco residents and multidisciplinary artists Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, together with curator and art historian Hans Ulrich Obrist, co-curated Strange Rules at Palazzo Diedo in Venice. The show explored the idea of protocol art \u2014 art that doesn\u2019t just use today\u2019s technologies but pulls back the curtain on them. The usually invisible systems that shape how culture gets made and seen \u2014 AI, algorithms, apps, and beyond \u2014 become the artistic material itself. In protocol art, the artwork stops being a fixed object and becomes something closer to a living process that is built on instructions and open to collaboration, including collaboration with the viewer and with machines.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this upcoming conversation, the three explore what various technologies make possible, why artists need power over the systems they work within, and where these questions might lead next. Herndon and Dryhurst bring the perspective of artists whose work consistently pushes into new territory, uncovering the potential of where technology can take us all while staying grounded in questions of who holds control and what it means for culture at large. Obrist, drawing on his deep immersion in contemporary art, brings the perspective of a historian and curator, asking what it means to make art not just with new tools, but out of the rules themselves and how this moment will shape what comes next.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>More details to come about registration.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/huo-edited-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9000570\" style=\"width:350px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/huo-edited-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/huo-edited-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/huo-edited-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/huo-edited-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/villa-albertine.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/huo-edited.jpg 1136w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Hans Ulrich Obrist<\/strong> is artistic director of Serpentine in London and senior advisor at LUMA Arles. Since his first exhibition, <em>World Soup (The Kitchen Show)<\/em>, in 1991, he has curated more than 350 shows. Notable examples include the <em>Do It<\/em> series; <em>Take Me (I\u2019m Yours)<\/em> in London, Paris, New York, and Milan; and the Swiss Pavilion at the 14th International Architecture Biennale in Venice. He has also co-curated <em>Cities on the Move<\/em>, <em>Il Tempo del Postino<\/em> in Manchester and Basel, and the <em>11\u201315 Rooms<\/em> series. Recent exhibitions include <em>Enzo Mari<\/em> at Triennale Milano and <em>WORLDBUILDING<\/em> at Centre Pompidou-Metz and Julia Stoschek Collection D\u00fcsseldorf. Since 2013, his Handwriting Project has protested the disappearance of handwriting in the digital age on Instagram (@hansulrichobrist). Obrist received the International Folkwang Prize (2015) and the Prix Fran\u00e7ois Morellet (2025); recent books include <em>A Life in Progress<\/em> (2025).&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":4422229,"menu_order":0,"template":"","app_discipline":[592,218],"app_city_tax":[225],"app_event_type":[722,405,407,241],"class_list":["post-9000567","app_event","type-app_event","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","app_discipline-ai","app_discipline-visual-arts","app_city_tax-sf","app_event_type-artist-in-residence","app_event_type-panel","app_event_type-panel-discussion","app_event_type-talk"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Art in the Age of AI: A Conversation between residents Holly Herndon &amp; Mat Dryhurst, and Hans Ulrich Obrist\u00a0 - Villa Albertine<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"In this upcoming conversation, the three explore what various technologies make possible, why artists need power over the systems they work within, and where these questions might lead next. 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